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Post by Boomer Chick on Jul 18, 2004 20:10:54 GMT -5
Heard Ed Dames on Coast to Coast Well, this is not good news at all. Ed Dames is a remote viewer who trains and has a group of remote viewers who work with him regularly. Although the time element is not clarified or "in cement" the following timeline of events is what Dames and his group have seen: 1. Space Shuttle forced down my meteors ( could also coincide with a space station situation as well as I reflect that one of the Native American prophecies says something about a flaming house coming down from the skies and earth changes will then begin) 3 months to go before #3 2. A situation in Korea involving a nuclear bomb blasted by North Korea in the ocean. U.S. warns Korea and world is on the brink of interchange. China will attack and overtake Taiwan -- U.S. will let them. 3. Gigantic solar flare burning one side of the planet while the other is in the dark. When looking at the moon the dark side will see a glowing moon suddenly brighter due to the earth's light side burning. Will also destroy the magnetic shields Doesn't know why the sun flares, but might be due to a gravitational pull from an approaching space body or black hole and most likely will also cause a pole shift at that time as well. Pole shift -- 200+ winds for quite awhile Safe places according to Dames? crop circle areas -- that's his take on the meaning of crop circles -- they're actually formed WHERE there is relative safety How far underground to avoid the sun's destruction and the winds? At least 5 ft. in the safe zones and deeper in other areas If you have a bomb shelter underground plan to stay holed up for at least a month to 3 months Areas near nuclear power plants won't be safe. Areas near coasts won't be safe. TheKillShot.com Meggysez and stubbornmoonchild -- I think we're moving to Canada!!! Come on with us!!! An old friend of ours wants to move to Colorado and she's wealthy and she could buy our house!!! Think about it! We could build a shelter up in Alberta where nuked potatoes lives and do what we were going to do here! It's an idea and I'm only tossing out ideas, now! Not in concrete!
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 23, 2004 15:18:15 GMT -5
"2. A situation in Korea involving a nuclear bomb blasted by North Korea in the ocean. U.S. warns Korea and world is on the brink of interchange. China will attack and overtake Taiwan -- U.S. will let them."
I was listening to a military analyst discussing China and it's war doctrines. To make a long story short, they (China) don't believe that we can beat them in an exchange of conventional war. First of all, they have billions of people that they'd be more than happy to decimate. If we were to engage in a body for body contest with China, we'd run out of people far sooner. I've heard it put like this, we'd be basically knocked out, and they'd leave with a bloody nose. Secondly, they are also aware of our economic weak ness’s, largely as a result of their own clandestine agenda. It's one aspect of their patient plan of asymmetrical warfare against us. I would say that China is probably right now the most affluent country in the world, and at our expense. It's no coincidence that almost everything we buy is made in China. Thirdly, they know that our military is spread thin. They know that the general threat of terrorism doesn't allow us with a specific address to attack. It's not like Osama Bin Laden has a home address, and a specific country to hold responsible associated with him. Many countries are secretly funding acts of terror against us. If we were to invade say Iran next, China we'll be watching carefully I'm sure. It's not so much the threat of all out nuclear attack from the US that deters China. They could care less if we wipe out 75% of their people. What our government, from what I've heard and read has told them is something different. We're basically saying, "If push comes to shove, were coming directly for your command and control". Eliminate the hierarchy and everything else crumbles. The worst aspect of this Iraq war was setting an example to the rest of the world of pre-emptive strikes. We’d be hypocrites now by expecting China not to invade Taiwan. If you didn’t already know, China feels that they have a historical obligation to occupy the region of Taiwan. Bush feels he is avenging his father with the Irag invasion, and not to mention oil. Are our reasons any better?
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 23, 2004 15:46:38 GMT -5
www.chinaview.cn 2004-07-24 00:10:27 WASHINGTON, July 23 (Xinhuanet) -- The US military has deployed a ground-based missile interceptor in Alaska, the first of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles, local media reported Friday. The nearly 17-meter-long three-stage interceptor was installed Thursday by military personnel at Fort Greely. By the end of the year, five more interceptors will be installed in Alaska, and four will be deployed at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Ten more will be installed at Fort Greely by late 2005. The Bush administration has planned to deploy a preliminary missile defense system of six rocket interceptors in Alaska and four in California by the end of September, saying the United States needs such a system to guard against long-range missile attacks. The US Congress has appropriated over 10 billion US dollars forthe missile defense system for fiscal 2005, and the Missile Defense Agency estimated the system would cost as high as 53 billion dollars for 2004-2009.
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Post by Boomer Chick on Jul 24, 2004 10:40:09 GMT -5
"2. A situation in Korea involving a nuclear bomb blasted by North Korea in the ocean. U.S. warns Korea and world is on the brink of interchange. China will attack and overtake Taiwan -- U.S. will let them." I was listening to a military analyst discussing China and it's war doctrines. To make a long story short, they (China) don't believe that we can beat them in an exchange of conventional war. First of all, they have billions of people that they'd be more than happy to decimate. If we were to engage in a body for body contest with China, we'd run out of people far sooner. I've heard it put like this, we'd be basically knocked out, and they'd leave with a bloody nose. Secondly, they are also aware of our economic weak ness’s, largely as a result of their own clandestine agenda. It's one aspect of their patient plan of asymmetrical warfare against us. I would say that China is probably right now the most affluent country in the world, and at our expense. It's no coincidence that almost everything we buy is made in China. Thirdly, they know that our military is spread thin. They know that the general threat of terrorism doesn't allow us with a specific address to attack. It's not like Osama Bin Laden has a home address, and a specific country to hold responsible associated with him. Many countries are secretly funding acts of terror against us. If we were to invade say Iran next, China we'll be watching carefully I'm sure. It's not so much the threat of all out nuclear attack from the US that deters China. They could care less if we wipe out 75% of their people. What our government, from what I've heard and read has told them is something different. We're basically saying, "If push comes to shove, were coming directly for your command and control". Eliminate the hierarchy and everything else crumbles. The worst aspect of this Iraq war was setting an example to the rest of the world of pre-emptive strikes. We’d be hypocrites now by expecting China not to invade Taiwan. If you didn’t already know, China feels that they have a historical obligation to occupy the region of Taiwan. Bush feels he is avenging his father with the Irag invasion, and not to mention oil. Are our reasons any better? KNOWTHIS, Of course our reasons are no better! No one questions that. And I don't own the neocon's behavior one iota! North Korea seems intent on playing with the nuclear situation, but had Bush used diplomacy, kept the diplomatic channels open and ceased and desisted on the threat campaign with them -- they might have slowed their nuclear production and maybe been able to be part of the trading system. But no, they're apparently going forward and will act out in frustration, but China also watches them as well. And I wouldn't blame the U.S. in any future to just let China overtake Taiwan and yes, I've read about the history there. It wouldn't be worth the fight, but before that happens we have to renegotiate with Taiwan in terms of diplomatic statements regarding protection. I doubt that our defense system is worried about Korea as far as its capabilities to reach our shores. But its local demonstrations may threaten stability in the region and the environmental stability as well. Do you think Ed Dames legitimizes or capitalizes on his remote viewing?
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 24, 2004 13:37:47 GMT -5
Do you think Ed Dames legitimizes or capitalizes on his remote viewing? I wouldn't doubt that some of these events could transpire. I'd be interested figuring his hit & miss ratio.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 24, 2004 16:09:53 GMT -5
Speaking of North Korea, do you recall this story? I'm not sure about the accuracy of this report and/or whether or not it's ever been officially confirmed? It was, I believe orginally published in the Korea Times.
NK Missile Warhead Found in Alaska¡¯
By Ryu Jin Staff Reporter The warhead of a long-range missile test-fired by North Korea was found in the U.S. state of Alaska, a report to the National Assembly revealed yesterday.
``According to a U.S. document, the last piece of a missile warhead fired by North Korea was found in Alaska,¡¯¡¯ former Japanese foreign minister Taro Nakayama was quoted as saying in the report. ``Washington, as well as Tokyo, has so far underrated Pyongyang¡¯s missile capabilities.¡¯¡¯
The report was the culmination of monthlong activities of the Assembly¡¯s overseas delegation to five countries over the North Korean nuclear crisis. The Assembly dispatched groups of lawmakers to the United States, Japan, China, Russia and European Union last month to collect information and opinions on the international issue.
The team sent to Japan, headed by Rep. Kim Hak-won of the United Liberal Democrats, reported, ``Nakayama said Washington has come to put more emphasis on trilateral cooperation between South Korea, Japan and the United States since it recognized that the three countries are within the range of North Korean missiles.¡¯¡¯
According to the group dispatched to the U.S., American politicians had a wide range of opinions over the resolution of the nuclear issue, from ``a peaceful resolution¡¯¡¯ to ``military response.¡¯¡¯
Doves, such as Rep. Edward J. Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat and co-chairman of the Bipartisan Task Force on Nonproliferation, called for a peaceful settlement of the current confrontation, by offering food, energy and other humanitarian aid to the poverty-stricken country, while urging the North to give up its nuclear ambitions.
Rep. Markey also said the North should return to the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and the U.S. should make a nonaggression pact with the communist North.
Hardliners, however, warned that the North¡¯s possession of nuclear weapons will instigate a nuclear race in the region, provoking Japan to also acquire nuclear weapons. Rep. Mark Steven Kirk, an Illinois Republican, said the U.S. might have to bomb the Yongbyon nuclear complex should the North try to export its nuclear material to other countries.
Over the controversy concerning the withdrawal of U.S. forces stationed here, most American legislators that the parliamentary delegation met said U.S. troops should stay on the peninsula as long as the Korean people want, the report said.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 24, 2004 16:17:32 GMT -5
I also recently came across this article which got me thinking about the validity of the prior. Again, I'm not exactly sure about the authenticity of this report either?
WASHINGTON, July 23 (Xinhuanet) -- The US military has deployed a ground-based missile interceptor in Alaska, the first of a national defense system designed to shoot down enemy missiles, local media reported Friday.
The nearly 17-meter-long three-stage interceptor was installed Thursday by military personnel at Fort Greely.
By the end of the year, five more interceptors will be installed in Alaska, and four will be deployed at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Ten more will be installed at Fort Greely by late 2005.
The Bush administration has planned to deploy a preliminary missile defense system of six rocket interceptors in Alaska and four in California by the end of September, saying the United States needs such a system to guard against long-range missile attacks.
The US Congress has appropriated over 10 billion US dollars forthe missile defense system for fiscal 2005, and the Missile Defense Agency estimated the system would cost as high as 53 billion dollars for 2004-2009. Enditem
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 24, 2004 16:21:53 GMT -5
www.kimsoft.com/korea/ch-nuke.htmLos Angeles for Taipei? Reuters New Media - Monday March 18 1:34 AM EST -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A high-ranking State Department official is playing down a threat by lower-level Chinese officials to hurl nuclear bombs at Los Angeles if the United States defended Taiwan against a Chinese attack. "Some Chinese lower-level officials told some visiting American officials that we wouldn't dare defend Taiwan because they'd rain nuclear bombs on Los Angeles," said Winston Lord, assistant secretary of state for East Asia and the Pacific. Lord, speaking on cable television C-SPAN's program "Sunday Journal," dismissed the reported threat as "a little disinformation and some psychological warfare." "This is unhelpful-type rhetoric," Lord said. "It's not official and indeed we had a recent h igh-level Chinese visitor here a week ago, here in Washington, and we pointed out that this kind of information was not helpful, and he, of course, denied that it was any official policy." He did not say which Chinese officials had cited the possibility of using nuclear bombs against Los Angeles nor which U.S. officials had been told, nor when the exchange took place. Nor did Lord name the senior Chinese official who he said had denied any threat to target Los Angeles. Senior U.S. officials held talks last week on Beijing's campaign of intimidation against Taiwan with Liu Huaqiu, foreign affairs director of China's state council. Asked to elaborate on Lord's account of the reported nuclear threat, a State Department spokeswoman said she had no information about it. In Beijing, Premier Li Peng warned the United States Sunday not to send warships into the Taiwan Strait, saying a sh ow of force could spell trouble. "If someone makes a show of force in the Taiwan Straits, that will not be helpful but will make the situation all the more complicated," he told reporters when asked how China would respond if U.S. ships entered the 137-milesea passage dividing Taiwan fro m the mainland that claims it. The United States has sent two aircraft carrier groups toward the area to monitor Chinese missile tests and war games that began March 8. Beijing says its maneuvers are meant to cow Taiwan voters before the island's first democratic presidential election into dropping any ideas of independence. Lord, in his televised remarks, said: "Of course we don't want to get in a war with China. They've got nuclear weapons, a huge army. We would prevail in such a war, but it'd be terrible for both sides, not to mention the peace and stability of the region. " But he added: "If China were to get away with unprovoked aggression against Taiwan, in addition to the impact of the people of Taiwan, what signal would this send to the rest of Asia and what signal would it send about our resolve." Chas Freeman, a former senior Pentagon official who recently shuttled between Beijing and Taipei and briefed policy-makers at the White House, said Chinese officials made a different point to him about a potential U.S.-China conflict. "What has been said is that the United States should not assume that China would not retaliate against attacks on China, which is quite a different thing," Freeman, a former assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, said in a telephone interview Su nday night. "Essentially, the statement is a realistic caution that the United States no longer has a free hand against China," as it did before China developed nuclear weapons of its own, he added. Freeman said he was unaware of the threat that L ord cited as having been made against Los Angeles.
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Post by KNOWTHIS on Jul 24, 2004 16:30:02 GMT -5
I didn't mean to go off on to a political tangent here! We can always move this into a different section with another title if we deem necessary. news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040723/pl_afp/china_us_military_taiwan_040723083410China tells US Pacific Command chief military contact with Taiwan must stop Fri Jul 23, 4:34 AM ET Add Politics - AFP to My Yahoo! BEIJING (AFP) - Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing told the commander of US forces in the Pacific that military exchanges with Taiwan must stop given the "seriousness" of the cross straits standoff. "The United States should clearly understand the seriousness and sensitiveness of the Taiwan situation," Li told Admiral Thomas Fargo, commander in chief of the US Pacific Command who is in Beijing for talks. He said arms sales to Taiwan should be halted and the US must "stop its relevant military exchanges aiming to upgrade the substantial relationship with Taiwan", the Xinhua news agency reported. Fargo is in China to meet with senior defence officials just days after the State Department urged China and Taiwan to ensure that military exercises both sides are conducting are not provocative. His trip follows a visit to Beijing by National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), whose talks with China's leaders were dominated by Taiwan. China has been training 18,000 troops on Dongshan Island 150 nautical miles west of Taiwan and large scale joint sea, land and air drills in the area were imminent, the pro-Beijing Wen Wei Po newspaper said Friday. Earlier reports in Beijing-backed Hong Kong newspapers said the war games had already started. The Wen Wei Po, long used as mouthpiece for China's sabre-rattling towards Taiwan, said drill was named "212 project trial" and would showcase nearly all of China's advance weapons. Beijing has said it would use the exercise to demonstrate its ability to dominate air space over Taiwan, an essential element in any invasion. The paper added that "tens of thousands" of troops were participating in a separate military exercise in the seas around Zhangzhou port, also in Fujian province, in which a large quantity of civilian ships have been commissioned. In Taiwan, the military has held anti-amphibious landing drills in its southern costal towns, designed to demonstrate its readiness in the event of an attack from China. Taiwanese fighter jets and helicopters were shown on television Thursday firing at simulated enemy troops landing on a beach along the southeastern coast of Pengtung. The United States has remained the leading arms supplier to Taiwan despite switching diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979, and China is becoming inreasingly edgy over US military strategy in the region, observers say. It has repeatedly called for Washington to stop arming Taiwan, which is considered a renegade province awaiting reunification by force if necessary. Under 25-year-old US legislation, the United States is bound by law to provide weapons to help Taiwan defend itself if its security is threatened. Cross-strait tension has been escalating since pro-independence Taiwanese President Chen Shui-bian was reelected to office earlier this year. Fargo, who is in charge of all US military air, ground and naval forces in the Pacific and Indian ocean areas, is also scheduled to meet with China's Chief of the General Staff General Liang Guanglie. There was no immediate comment from US officials. His swing through the region also includes stops in Mongolia, Guam and Japan.
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